Many of you guys know me. I am active on these boards and partake in discussions, and I try to write entertaining trip reports after each trip. I also write for Vegas Bright, even though I live in Milwaukee. So I definitely qualify as a member of the Vegas Obsessed, and one could say that I've got a pretty good idea of how Las Vegas works. Well, until tonight I thought I did. I have been working with the Foundation Room to set up an informal trip to the patio for my entire group that will be competing in the USBC Open Championships bowling tournament in mid-April. I've sent 10 E-mails in the past five weeks coordinating times, dress codes, names, etc. Then tonight after I sent the "Thanks for all of your help" E-mail, I get a reply that the group minimum spend is $600 and that the food would need to be pre-ordered. Talk about a bait and switch... they pull that crap a month ago, then I don't have 14 people expecting to hang out on the 64th floor patio, trading war stories of a bowling tournament gone wrong. Although I did counter offer with a (much) lower spend amount, I now have a bitter, metallic taste in my mouth and I don't know if I WANT to go there now. So, I need a new place for our reasonably small group. I am welcome to ideas, but since I've seen these threads on this board before, I know that y'alls need some details.... 14 people Sunday, April 23 at approx 9:00 PM All are over 21, but five of us are under 25 (so cost has to be considered) Three are over 70, so the amount of walking (and portion size) need to be considered. Bowling at South Point, and with only two cars there will be some Ubering, and cost needs to be considered. Would prefer a place without paid parking, but if the location is worth it, we'd pay it. Those parameters eliminate a LOT of places... Huge portion places like Hash House, the Peppermill and all churrascaria are out of play. So are places downtown due to the cost for some of the group to travel. The youngin's don't want to pay $60 for a steak, the oldsters don't want to pay $20 for a hamburger. I am considering Battista's Hole in the Wall. I know that some people love it and some hate it. But the kitsch factor is in play, so is the unlimited cheap wine for the college kids (who wouldn't know good wine from shyt wine anyway). I will consider all serious suggestions... Especially gems off-strip that I've either never heard of or have forgotten about. Thanks, gang!